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This post is a few days too late, because Infinity Train just got announced as coming out in 2019.

BUT, here is a tweet from the show's creator addressing toxicity in the fandom, before the show was even greenlit:

"Hints haven't been working, so I'll just say it now: Stop shitting on other shows in the name of Infinity Train. You're taking the hard work that people put into their shows and disparaging it when they're trying to have their moment. It's just mean and breeds animosity. Stop."

I came across this tiny fandom for the show a while ago. I've had niche fandoms, but this was next level. An animated short existed, and some people speculated it would become a show mostly from stalking people's Linked In pages.

I've been in fandom a long-ass time. I've never seen anything like this, though.

The short looks cool and I hope the show is good, but ... just ... massive drama before the show is even greenlit?

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I shouldn't be surprised, but kind of am.... (I think maybe it was the boyband EXO, when they were releasing teasers there were already arguments in fandom, over a difference in number of teasers some members were getting - the length between promos and the actual debut just allowed for too much time for this crap).

Fans like this just put me off. Haven't checked out Voltron because of the fan bs that's come up on my feeds. Do they not get they're doing their interest harm but putting others off of it?

Fair play to the creators for addressing the shitty culture being created by some people. Hopefully they'll heed those words, though I wouldn't hold my breath

At least that was teasers and not stalking people's LinkedIn profiles to put together clues that the project event existed outside of a one-off short.

I like the short, even though I don't like any other cartoons. Oh, I guess we are calling them 'modern western animation' now to make them sound more itellectualish. I kinda want to get into this one when it comes out, but I also kind of want to back away slowly.

Honestly, I think Modern Western Animation is a necessary fandom distinction because there are so many different groupings of cartoons. You have Disney fandom, classic cartoon fandom, 70s and 80s and 90s Saturday Morning Cartoon fandoms, DCAU fandom, 90s Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon fandoms, 00s Cartoon Network fandom, just to get started. And anime fandom is there peskily forcing the Western qualifier. Modern Western Animation is a grouping of cartoon fandoms that I can make sense of and that actually needs to be distinguished from all the other stuff.

LOL didn't stop with the teasers and IDK if fans did go on to stalk staff but they definitely stalked the guys in the boyband.

But yeah, to have a creator have to tweet that, after only one-off short, not good. Will we ever return to fandom's walled gardens a la LiveJournal? Seems desirable rn

I would love a return to LJ style stuff. No algorithms, small fandoms and niche pairings can thrive again, easier to do organized stuff like challenges and fests, etc

I kinda missed out on LJ, but it seems like something that would suit a large part of fandom - esp the older, less purity-wanky part of fandom

Might not have the explosion of likes/reblogs/tweets that other sites have, but would be better for the community aspect?

The LJ era and format has it's problems, but algorithms breed wank and silence smaller voices. It's intentional, makes sites more 'lively'. Drives engagement through toxicity.

I do a lot with social media and yeah, I feel like I am wading through muck half the time.

OFC it had it's problems, it had people using it! :P

Definitely read about the crappiness of algorithms, esp in relation to Twitter and users that violate its TOS but remain because of engagement/newsworthiness.

A lot of crap... I wonder if ye olde newspapers and chapbooks had such wank back in the day

The worst is facebook. They've admitted to running studies on what different filtering does to their users. "Let's see what happens if we only show this one user depressing things!" They've also made it so you can't go 'viral' there anymore organically. It's all pay to play now. They charge certain political viewpoints more for ads than others, which is massively illegal on any other medium.

And I could go on, but I'll spare you. I am just stuck with it for both life and work.

Facebook are atrocious. I read this one piece on how someone exploited the newest update to the algorithm by getting people to comment on her vid and it just stayed at teh top of everyones feed for 5 days and they were sick of her...
facebook, not a very ethical company, data protection laws, and laws in general, really need to catch up with tech

Worse when you've it for work - at least in life you can switch it off now and then

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